デイビット・チャンのインスタグラム(davidchang) - 3月1日 07時29分

This week, in one of my favorite episodes of @davechangshow ever, I spoke to Pulitzer Prize-winning art critic @jerrysaltz about making an enemy out of envy, the value of meeting deadlines, Goya, Picasso, Duchamp, his experience dining at El Bullí, how much he loves iced coffee, and more. While he admittedly knows nothing about food, our conversation taught me so much about being a chef. Listen to Jerry (and read his 33 Rules for Becoming an Artist). ? I hope to have him back on the show many times.

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